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If we dont treat the universe and earths feelings as more important than our own then we wont survive its really that simple.

Ilija Prentovski's avatar

Regarding the conclusion, I have noticed that the market ideology has also infected the minds of self-described socialists. It is difficult for them to accept that even if "the workers seize the means of production" tomorrow, there would still be in-group/out-group dynamics at play, manifesting in two ways:

1) The newly appointed owners would undoubtedly be better off within their coop/company/corporation, but they would still need to sell their products/services to outsiders. That is still a market economy, and markets breed capitalism.

2) Ownership (over "the means") is a bourgeois category which requires a coercive bureaucratic apparatus to maintain it, so we've come full circle to where we already are. Aiming for universal access instead of ownership is a proper step to take.

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